I went to the Gander Mtn. in Terre Haute this afternoon to see what was happening there....I saw some absolute FREAKS being weighed in for their contest. I saw a 13 pointer with a small drop tine with great mass all over and out well past the ears that weighed 226, a 21 pointer that went 175 lbs. that just had a lot of junk on it and 2 separate beams coming out of it's head on the left side with a drop tine off the far left one that curved back towards it's body...totally freaky looking. The most impressive of the bucks that I saw while there was an absolute monster 8 pointer that carried great mass from the bases all the way out to the tips of the main beams. It had a 20" inside spread and hit the scales at 200 lbs. The greatest thing about this deer is it was taken by a 14 year old boy with a CVA muzzleloader...HIS FIRST DEER EVER!!!!! Dean Weimer you need to contact this kid it is truly an amazing looking deer. The points fork out like a Mule Deer with great tine length througout, just an absolute beautiful Whitetail Deer. In my estimation there will be no deductions at all on this massive typical rack. The bases are every bit of 5 1/2" inches. I asked if this deer was alone or tracking a doe...they said it was with 4 other bucks all about the same size!!! :yikes: The guy that shot the 13 poiinter I mentioned earlier said he saw another one about the same size that he killed and then saw one that put both of them to shame...he said it was an absolute beast!!! OBR?...Think it's working???