Boyz, I had an embarrassing moment at the range the other evening. The only reason I am admitting to this is for safety reasons. Someone stopped to chat about muzzleloading and I then proceeded to sit down and zero in to fire the rifle. Primer goes off but no bang. Did it again and no bang. Removed breech plug, no powder. Shoved rod down the barrel and the bullet with sabot is 2/3 down the barrel and I pushed it out. Needless to say I dry holed it. With my earlier distraction of a brief conversation, I did not load any powder but set the bullet and sabot. This turned out to be a great lesson. The alternative would have been to double load with dangerous results. Next time there is a distraction, when in doubt; I'll start over!:tongue: Be safe!