Full auto license question

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hoosierbuckslayer

Discussion Starter · Jun 27, 2009

How do you go about gettin these? How much? i got a ruger im wantin to but the convesion kit for but i want to do it ligeally

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read up on the "national firearms act"(A.K.A.-NFA)
what is required is an extensive background check by the BATFE, of course a ton of paperwork,a signature from your local law enforcement chief( not just any joe blow cop it has to your city police chief,the county sheriff,state highway patrol commander,etc),and finally you must pay the $200 tax.
all said it would likely take 2-3 months.
i have been told that you must also have a secured storage facility and you could be inspected any time 24 hours a day.

Came across this in google... Hopefully it'll help you. I've heard that they are VERY hard to get. But i don't know, Never really plan on getting one. Semi-auto is good enough for what i do.

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hoosierbuckslayer

Discussion Starter · #3 · Jun 28, 2009

Thats good im best friends with our Police chief. Im assuming thiers an age limit

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buckhorn50

· #4 · Jun 28, 2009

Sounds like you're off to a great start then. I believe it is the same age as a regular license... I'll look more into it.

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fmj

· #5 · Jun 28, 2009

class 3 is great, if you dont mind opening yourself up to the feds like that (read, extensive cavity searchs...if you take my meaning) in my world, the less fed B.S. i have to deal with the better!!

i'm just sayin'

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Minksy

· #6 · Aug 4, 2009

You aren't going to do any legal converting without a class 2 ffl and or a class 3 ffl/dealers license. All post 86 dealer samples are for law enforcement/government and must be destroyed after the license has expired or is sold to another dealer or government agency. There have been no legal private citizen conversions since April of 1986. Reagan signed that one as a tack on voice vote provision, included in the FOP. You are more than able to buy pre '86 made machine guns if you want to pay the thousands and thousands that they cost. I had a mac-11 I paid 1200 for in '01 and the cheapest I've seen them lately was around 4k.

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hoosierbuckslayer

Discussion Starter · #7 · Aug 4, 2009

jeeez

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abumariah

· #8 · Aug 4, 2009

buckhorn50 said:
read up on the "national firearms act"(A.K.A.-NFA)
what is required is an extensive background check by the BATFE, of course a ton of paperwork,a signature from your local law enforcement chief( not just any joe blow cop it has to your city police chief,the county sheriff,state highway patrol commander,etc),and finally you must pay the $200 tax.
all said it would likely take 2-3 months.
i have been told that you must also have a secured storage facility and you could be inspected any time 24 hours a day.

Came across this in google... Hopefully it'll help you. I've heard that they are VERY hard to get. But i don't know, Never really plan on getting one. Semi-auto is good enough for what i do.

plan on waiting 12-18 months instead of 2-3. and if you are borderline as far as age is concerned (21-24), it's probably not going to happen. even for a 10-22.

it's actually something you probably will regret unless you really, REALLY feel a moral obligation to do it. if you lose the weapon or it's stolen, if you even screw up your records, you are looking at automatic felony charges. It's an extremely serious situation that you should really think hard about before you do it.

good luck tho.

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Steve_Pollett

· #9 · Nov 6, 2009

There is no "license" either to own a full auto machine gun, silencer or SBR. A $200 federal tax/registration as Minsky stated is needed per item. The same goes for silencers & SBR's, Each item=$200 tax/registration
Put a silencer on a SBR=$400 and two forms to be signed

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jschowe

· #10 · Nov 6, 2009

and don't you have to carry a copy of the stamp with you whenever you take the weapon out to shoot?

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Steve_Pollett

· #11 · Nov 7, 2009

jschowe said:
and don't you have to carry a copy of the stamp with you whenever you take the weapon out to shoot?

The paperwork is to be with you wherever the Class III item goes.

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ccdeer1960

· #12 · Nov 7, 2009

From what i've experienced ,no matter whether you do a conversion on your gun or buy one already converted its about the same price. To convert a Colt preban and seer, about 13k or buy one 13 to 15 k already converted. Stamps are for each weapon 200 bucks, thats the cheap part. Not hardly worth it if you didnt get in on the ground floor.

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angleyez734u

· #13 · Apr 20, 2022

Minksy said:
You aren't going to do any legal converting without a class 2 ffl and or a class 3 ffl/dealers license. All post 86 dealer samples are for law enforcement/government and must be destroyed after the license has expired or is sold to another dealer or government agency. There have been no legal private citizen conversions since April of 1986. Reagan signed that one as a tack on voice vote provision, included in the FOP. You are more than able to buy pre '86 made machine guns if you want to pay the thousands and thousands that they cost. I had a mac-11 I paid 1200 for in '01 and the cheapest I've seen them lately was around 4k.

You know there is one problem with this law on "registering" these firearms...Reagan also passed a law at the same time that made it illegal for the government to hold a list of any gun owners so that if the government did get tyrannical, they didn't have a goto list of gun owners for them to use to their own advantage. My question is how is it legal to make you register on a list as a firearm owner with this law instated. It seems to me it would be a direct violation against this law for them to make you register your name as a gun owner (any gun) due to this law. Seems like they are breaking the law by making people own these firearms "legally".

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