Have to agree all the way. Some property owners just have it in for fishing folks. They feel the more they can discourage us, the less non-property owners they'll have to deal with or have on "their lake!" However, the trouble is just a few, non-thinking anglers can ruin any good thing for all of us. I always checkover my shanty area for anything I've left, including my cigarette butts & throw them in a little bag. It only takes a moment. Oh yes, as "fried" as I might be, I pick up anything from others in any parking area. Again, it only takes a moment. A few years back I parked in a large drive where others said the owners didn't care. I happened to be leaving the lake when they showed up for the weekend. I took just a moment to ask about the parking & then thank them for allowing us to. They were very appreciative that I would take time to say thanks. A little bit of kindness & thoughtfulness goes a long way "around!"